Round Table Group meeting
Draft agenda for meeting on 17 October 2018
At Fisherton Hall, St Paul’s Church, Salisbury
Chair – Roy Gillet
1: Welcome, apologies, Code of Conduct and introductions
2: Report from planning team for Winter Solstice 2018
3: Feedback from RTG
4: Discussion on points raised
5: Ideas presented from interested parties for sharing spiritual and religious meaning of Stones
with Summer Solstice attendees
5: Date for next meeting and host decided
Hopefully there will be a mini festival nearby from Tuesday,
details on a poster is here.
Dave Sanger’s horsedrawn stage should be there with many acts (but no electric amplification)
English Heriticage’s carpark opens at 7pm Wednesday 20th June 2018 with a £15 charge per car and a mile walk to the Stones, with disabled buses.
However access is free if you walk, cycle or get a bus.
Some of us will try to park at Woodhenge
(north of the Amesbury roundabout)
and walk the five miles to the Stones.
There will be police with guns, and searches.
English Heritcage’s page is here
Have fun !
This was an independently facilitated workshop organised by EH to improve communications including deciding on what issues were needed to be debated, getting a Code of Conduct so people were safe to speak without shouting, ensuring RT members could add to the Agenda and that get out in time and not last minute.
Also a main issue for debate was more access, at least the eight main ceremonial days not just equinoxes and solstices.
Equal access for venues means that the meetings will return to Salisbury which has better transport links than Amesbury
Encouraging people to engage who cannot get to meetings via a group to discuss online and perhaps an audio link live with podcast links has been suggested.
Deed of gift
dated 26 October 1918 = 2018 will have celebrations of the centerary of the monument being gifted to the British nation
HOW TO CLOSE A BOAT Byway Open To All Traffic – its not easy, and any closure may be overturned by change of council, political or legal challenge
This may help explain for a start – also see in our Files https://www.facebook.com/notes/stonehenge-law-planning-library/law-countryside-rights-of-way-act-2000-part-11-relating-to-byways/472639086175876
In the United Kingdom, a byway open to all traffic (BOAT) is a highway over which the public have a right of way for vehicular and all other kinds of traffic but which is used by the public mainly for the purpose for which footpaths and bridleways are used.
In rural areas such roads can often be unmetalled – when they are known as green lanes. Such roads are lawful highways open to all traffic, although they often have the appearance of being no more than glorified tracks.
LARA – http://laragb.org/
Full info on what BOATS are and how they are managed via the LARA organisation that SGWI liaised with during the public inquiry 2011, on section 2 is the notation of the North Yorks National Parks precedent, which we both used and which the inquiry at Stonehenge reinforced – fundamentally if something is legally open dont expect them all to arrive on foot or bike or horse!!! http://www.laragb.org/an/bestofbyways.pdf
United Kingdom Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, section 15(9)(c), as amended by Road Traffic (Temporary Restrictions) Act 1991, Schedule 1). Byways account for less than 2% of England’s unsurfaced Rights of Way network, the remainder being footpaths and bridleways.
CROW – 2 May 2006 the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 reclassified all remaining Roads Used as Public Paths as restricted byways. The public’s rights along a restricted byway are to travel:
- on foot
- on horseback or leading a horse
- by vehicle other than mechanically propelled vehicles (thus permitting e.g. bicycles, horse-drawn carriages, to travel along restricted byways)
The Restricted Byways (Application and Consequential Amendment of Provisions) Regulations 2006 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/1177/contents/made
ROW – Rights of Way England and Wales, public rights of way are paths on which the public have a legally protected right to pass and re-pass.
Scotland, a right of way is a route over which the public has been able to pass unhindered for at least 20 years. The route must link two “public places”, such as villages, churches or roads. Unlike in England and Wales there is no obligation on Scottish local authorities to signpost or mark a right of way
HOW TO CLOSE A BOAT – its not easy, and any closure may be overturned by change of council, political or legal challenge
A BOAT may in time become a restricted byway as per the CROW ACT – what has to happen to lose Open to ALL traffic? http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/contents
An explanation is here via the forum of Trail Riders http://www.trf.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1300
SGWI has three arms, Eco and Enviro, Ancient Sacred Sites and Health & Wellbeing for the humans looking after the other stuff!